Elive

• Install the system in Language A
• New desktop configuration, selecting language B
• Re-login in destkop, directory names wants to be renamed (not!!)

This is due to some gnome xdg pre-desktop launcher that knows the language of the system but not the one that we have selected in the desktop

Notes:

• Brainstorming: on which cases we should want to have the directories renamed? only from elive-topaz (statically english) maybe

The new multiple screens betatesting is ready to be used, this task will be to better track all that is needed to betatest:

How to use it: Everything should be automated, so just upgrade your system with the command “apug” and restart to a new desktop configuration (from elive menus), which is important too. It should detect that you have multiple screens and ask you to configure them, or use an existing configuration, etc in contrary case you still have the configurator available (only one now, which is an elive tool)

Things to betatest: This is the list:

1. all the options and behaviours (what if select no, yes, save, not save, remove, etc), this is more or less already betatested by me
2. try to disconnect the extra screen, reboot computer, your desktop should be equally functional (and I assume not asking/saying anything about)
3. poweroff again the computer, connect again the extra screen, it should remember that configuration for your second screen and going back to these settings (without asking anything, i assume)
4. there’s some games that changes your screen resolution (in order to play in fullscreen), if the game exits with an error your desktop is messed up (desktop running in a strange resolution), the normal behaviour is to return to the correct resolution when the game exits correctly, but i dont know if this happens or even if goes to the correct multiscreen mode. Also: a reboot should perfectly return to the normal behaviour
5. maybe already said before, but switching between “using and not using” the external screen should be not a painful experience (and/or with reboots), it should be “work on the fly”
6. ecomorph (special effects) should work correctly, except for the “exposé effect” which doesn’t seems to like it so much (confused numbers of desktops, etc, not sure if this one works better after the full implementation)
7. detail: technically speaking, there’s two launching of the “load screen settings”, one happens before the desktop is loaded and the other when the desktop has started to load... in other words: if there’s a widget/question that asks for anything it should always happen when you already have access to the window controls (including window borders for example)
8. since i found a strange behavior with the “automated fonts sizing calculation” feature, i include this betatest point: test if the font sizes are not reconfigured “smaller than normal”
9. we have hotkeys to switch between virtual desktops, do we have a setup for between screens? i just tried to configure a new keyboard hotkey (ctrl + alt + shift + arrows) for switch to another screen 0/1 but doesn’t looks like to work on virtualbox... will need to do test in a real machine (and implement the hotkey in the default configuration)

Notes: if any of these betatests are not working as expected, please include the details of the “steps” about how to reproduce it, and the exact (first words) of the “conflicting” message found

set-up:
Hardware:
azerty Belgian period keyboard

settings:
Language setting: English
keyboard setting: Belgium

On this type of keyboard if you need numbers you have to use shift. This works but when using caps lock it doensn’t tis only effect the numbers and special chars. not for the normal letters there it works fine as it should.

This is tested on 2 laptops and both have the same problem so it isn’t a hardware problem.

after creating the bootable usb with the elive tool the img isn’t trusted and therefor can’t be installed or upgrade systems

Elive works well at older computers like Amilo M 7400, 512 MB RAM and about 1.2 GHz.

But Office solutions like LibreOffice too much bloated for old computers.

Because looking for Beginners using Elive (I think it’s perfect, because intuitive using is nearly perfect), giving a choose by using Elive, if old hardware is detected.
Beginners don’t know, that Abiword and gnumeric for example are good enough for the most office works.

And there are much less performance needing office solutions, i don’t know.

In germany we would say, thats the point of the letter “i”.
;)

While booting numlock doesn’t enable this could be handy for passwords

When creating a DB in libreOffice base you get loads of errors.

It can be helped by installing

sudo apt-get install libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb

this maybe included in the next beta

With the 2.9.18 upgrade the timezone is off with 1 hour.

Hi,

I have yesterday finished installation of last beta version. Unfortunately I wasn’t front of my laptop when the installation process went to an end. I think that there’s probably on last step something like how to boot the system isn’t it? Now the system doesn’t boot and I can’t access bios... Have you some idea what to now? I’ m using Lenovo ThinkPad E530c.
Thanks.

BR,

Vlad.

a back button is needed in during the installation progress

PLEASE be describable, clear, and direct. Think that we need to understand, found, and solve the bug.

Remember to set the Due in Version box into the next stable version number.

Thank you

elive 2.9.2 USB I have tried this in a Pentium system and cannot fully boot an hangs with message: module dm_raid45 not found in modules.dep

I have also tried booting an Acer 5532. Same problem

If you run something like “berusky” (small game, which don’t works in fact), it fucks your X resolution without possibility to recover it (BIG BAD BUG)

In short it seems like to: change your E resolution, don’t restore the original one, but E saves and remebers it

We should need a way to detect that the resolution was changed by FOO, when FOO finishes and some seconds passed change the resolution to the original one if we are not on it (not sure if this is possible)

Also, is needed to save the resolution on E confs only when we select to save it, seems like there’s a trigger that saves it automatically, this is very bad :P

Notes: betatest in e19 to see if the bug is solved (and so just cherry-pick the fixes)

XDG_DATA_DIRS defines the order to where to search for .desktop files, for example we have apulse-skype package that replaces a .desktop that is defined on a previous dir on this variable, this perfectly works if you run skype from menus (skype that requires pulseaudio using a pulseaudio emulator work in alsa-only), but if you run it from engage or from ibar, it doesn’t works (so looks like it gots the .desktop from the default dir instead of the one that we have defined), it doesnt works also from other places like “startup applications”

After to have opened the menu it frozen and then segfaulted, computer is a nettop, seems like nettops are much more prone to segfault since they are slower :)

I received these messages on IRC thanks to elmo40, but it doesn’t happens to me as you can see on this screenshot:

https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-549198d97b8fe3.16604264.jpg

Still having the problem ? How I can reproduce it ?

<elmo40> Thanatermesis: did you get the message ?
<elmo40> AlexAnt couldn't read his existing ext4 partition while trying the latest live image.
<elmo40> (2:37:54 PM) AlexAnteMachina: ext4 is an unknown filesystem to elive??? really???
<elmo40> (2:51:41 PM) AlexAnteMachina: thunar rejects to access my hdd
<Thanatermesis> elmo40, thx, ill check that

If you press the power button (which shows a menu option in E to close computer) and extremely-fastly you press any keyboard key, you got a segfault

This can help making it to appear: cd /tmp ; mprime-cpu -t
Also if you add a “drop caches” on that command should help too, giving you more human-time over computer-time

<PrinceAMD> what i think is happening here is
<PrinceAMD> an object is deleted, then a key pressed on the object causes seff
<PrinceAMD> so i think some check is needed in _e_manager_cb_key_down
<PrinceAMD> i'm guessing this is a keybinding bug, so lets say the binding trigger a call of a deleted pointer,

Thread 1 (Thread 0xb5c619a0 (LWP 7261)):
#0  0xb7270607 in pause () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:82
No locals.
#1  0x0807ba9e in e_alert_show () at e_alert.c:38
No locals.
#2  0x08160903 in e_sigseg_act (x=11, info=0xbfe18b8c, data=0xbfe18c0c) at e_signals.c:71
No locals.
#3  <signal handler called>
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00000020 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x081479d9 in e_object_del (obj=0x9964768) at e_object.c:54
No locals.
#6  0x080808cf in _e_actions_act_halt_go (obj=0x9678cd8, params=0x0) at e_actions.c:2265
No locals.
#7  0x08089591 in e_bindings_key_down_event_handle (ctxt=E_BINDING_CONTEXT_MANAGER, obj=0x9678cd8, ev=0x996d9e8) at e_bindings.c:514
        act = 0x9894d78
        mod = E_BINDING_MODIFIER_NONE
        binding = 0x98cac98
        l = 0x98c9c80
#8  0x0813764c in _e_manager_cb_key_down (data=0x9678cd8, ev_type=50, ev=0x996d9e8) at e_manager.c:758
        man = 0x9678cd8
        e = 0x996d9e8
#9  0xb6f95c2f in _ecore_call_handler_cb (func=0x81375e8 <_e_manager_cb_key_down>, data=0x9678cd8, type=50, event=0x996d9e8) at lib/ecore/ecore_private.h:359
        r = 1 '\001'
#10 0xb6f96b6a in _ecore_event_call () at lib/ecore/ecore_events.c:562
        ret = 1 '\001'
        e = 0x9a8ca58
        handle_count = 2
        l = 0x0
        l_next = 0x0
        eh = 0x95e1df0
#11 0xb6fa1167 in _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal (once_only=0) at lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:1942
        next_time = 0.24938403899795958
#12 0xb6f9f419 in ecore_main_loop_begin () at lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:983
No locals.
#13 0x08078164 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfe1a284) at e_main.c:1138
        nostartup = 0 '\000'
        safe_mode = 0 '\000'
        after_restart = 1 '\001'
        waslocked = 0 '\000'
        t = 1417114627.236887
        tstart = 1417114627.236887
        s = 0x0
        buff = "1417114627.2\000\277{\267@\304z\267\001\000\000\000\000\020e\266\240\221", <incomplete sequence \341\277>
        action = {__sigaction_handler = {sa_handler = 0x8160988 <e_sigabrt_act>, sa_sigaction = 0x8160988 <e_sigabrt_act>}, sa_mask = {__val = {0 <repeats 32 times>}}, sa_flags = -1073741820, sa_restorer = 0xbfe18fd0}
        __FUNCTION__ = "main"

You said recently that you have found the cause of the bug where teh windwos are positioned in the first screen (xinerama) when looking at something else about borders?, but i still having the bug around, did you commited the fix ?

I’ve noticed something with the tabs and windows in chromium that u might find interesting :)

Chromium ‘bugs’ with handling from one instance tab → window → another instance tab http://mwow.dk/data/action/vid/this-1-1.ogv

This bug happens since some update of chromium in debian wheezy, 35.0.1916.153-1~deb7u1, it works with the previous version 34.0.1847.116-1~deb7u1

If you open terminal from thunar, which is assigned to urxvt, the colors theme is not considered, it doesn’t read our .Xdefaults file ?

OS: Elive Topaz+ (beta)
Arch: 32bit (x86)
update status: Fully up to date as per official elive repos.

how to reproduce:
Open a folder in Thunar, right click, point at create document = window manager freeze (Entrance?)

heres a video for demonstration:
External Link

In my thinkpad laptop, if i run wizard (new .e) i got the audio configurator that asks me twice, see if this happens after to upgrade to 3.0-rc

There’s multiple packages on gimp for edit raw files, we need to know which one to include (betatesting)

Try to reproduce:

- /etc/default/keyboard is set to “es” - configure E to use US instead
- when you restart e17 is set back to ES

Note: use a new elive install, which sets correctly all those things

<Elive_user_en_18> when selecting english Canada changes to French Canada

This report seems to reffer to wizard languages selector I assume

English is english, so french canada is wrong (note that canada has french and english, betatest too if the keyboard is correctly set too)

Thenuxnewbie (princeamd’s friend?) reported a crash on e17 “trying to move gadgets from shelf” he said, attached crasdump file

<Thenuxnewbie> im on wifi and i just noticed something, it would allow me to remove the gadget as long as the wifi signal strength isn’t displayed in what i presume is the system tray
<Thenuxnewbie> but as long as it’s showing signal strength bar, trying to remove the gadged crashes e17

So try to remove the wifi widget with the systray active to reproduce the bug

seem vbox is out of date with this really new kernel so the vboxdrv modules segf somewhere in the kernel, I suggest using a kernel that is supported by vbox, this problem is only with vbox.

Kill tumblerd always before umounting a partition

~ ps aux | grep 30017
1000 1868 0.0 0.0 5188 732 pts/0 SN+ 17:35 0:00 grep 30017
1000 30017 4.5 3.4 517740 68508 ? Sl 17:12 1:02 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd
~

In laptop of sapi, there’s an hdmi entry that is not a real card, in order to preselect it correctly we could list the channels and see if has any valid entry, for example this wrong one has:

~ amixer
Simple mixer control ‘IEC958’,0

Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [off]

~

If you put the laptop to suspend, when you put it back you cannot browse shared folders, this happens on my acer-aspire-one laptop in live mode at least

Maybe there’s a post-suspend hook/script that needs to be added for reload sambasomething ?

Users should not remove essential packages, but they do...

We will need some kind of feature that at shutdown (more reliable than boot-time) will check if we have removed any essential-elive package and asks if restore it

Users are used of the left-click in desktop (or in a Start button), but not the right now which is the one is actually assigned the e17 menu popup

This must be changed, since we don’t use the “favorites” anymore in e17

Thanks Tio for this report

xrandr / e17 screen confs are not restored after to have played a game or launched some applications that changes the screen sizes

Try for example with “smc” (super mario chronicles) package in debian

WARNING: “cd .e ; bkp s”, it will broke your e17 conf

Note: maybe only in xinerama ?

Multiple reports:

- If you run the upgrade mode with the beta version, it doesnt seems to boot it (file not found)

- The entry from grub is not removed after the first (any state) reboot

- The installer of 3.0 needs to be adapted

Seems like wifi doesn’t automatically connect when i come back from suspension and im in another location (and I enable the wifi power-button later too), i need to open the internet configurator emodule for to start/open the Network-manager applet (note that by default is removed in order to save some resources consumption and memory usage.

The question is... do we need this nm-applet running all the time so that the network will be correctly connected/updated all the time? this sounds for me non-sense since there’s a daemon of NM, the applect should be only for manual selection or configuration of things, otherwise a daemon should works a daemon.

It happens to you too ?

Lastest e17, after to finish wizard go fast to the applications menu and scroll it, e17 freezes

This bug reported by AlexAnteMachina has nothing to do with composite, not even with vbox, I tried it in laptop and e17 simply gets frozen, seems like X11 is died, very strange bug! even with my libs updated without the optimize options (please somebody confirm that we have debug messages now), there’s simply no way to get a backtrace because everything is blocked (well, you can kill X11, but you lose everything)

Maybe there’s not even needed to select German language, it looks like an efreet bug

This is another bug, but seems like caused by the same reason, sometimes, and just sometimes, e17 starts looking like this (some hang in the startup of efreet, or uncomplete or similar, idk)
http://main.elivecd.org/tmp/enlightenment/shot-2013-06-01_22-24-45.jpg

A restart of e17 will solve the problem, but is not a good way to start e17 of course

Another bug: if you install eltrans (here is elive in version 2.1.40), and you try to open the menus, it becomes frozen

PrinceAMD has a computer which when kms loads, the console turns blank, user can’t see anything, but the system continue booting correctly (1-2 minutes in blank)

Maybe should be good to add a boot option in the live menu with this entry: nomodeset that solves the problem, for those cases

I just tried to use Google Talk for videoconference (calls) but seems to not work, I tried it on chrome and even installed a .deb package provided by google, it complains about that is not correctly installed or something similar, I will need to make future look to it

By default if you play a DVD and enable subtitles in VLC, they looks ugly as 2 hells, I think that this can be solved in the settings (advanced/all?), we need to play / beta-test a bit to see a solution for that

This workaround in needed for these models 3400

root $ echo “options snd_hda_intel model=auto” » /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ; rmmod snd_hda_intel ; modprobe snd_hda_intel

Chromium complains about outdated flash version, like in www.electroswing-radio.com , there’s some bugs reported in debian (bts show chromium), so we need to wait the release of debian first to see what happens with this

after to create a user in samba (previously on my system), i can’t share folders anymore”, and this message:

$ smb-usershare -p princeamd/                           % 
net usershare: usershares are currently disabled
 Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/bin/smb-usershare", line 580, in <module>
  gui.msgbox(START_MSG)
 TypeError: msgbox() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)

smbmount is required for smb-browser, but the package smbfs is not available in debian wheezy right now, i’m not sure why, maybe is replaced by the package cifs-utils, or maybe it enters back in the future (release of wheezy stable), in any of the cases i leave this report opened to know that something needs to be fixed around :), which means adapt smb-browser to the new tool or get some kind of port

PS: in any of the cases, smb-browser is not a strict requirement for Elive since thunar is able now to browse samba networks in a friendly way

some error messages when you run smb-usershare are shown in the terminal, but not graphically, this can be a problem when the user is running the application from graphical mode only (menu applications launchers).

In my case, just repackaging it for the new version i found these messages:

Lacking to install the “samba” package:

net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No existe el fichero o el directorio
Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/smb-usershare", line 580, in <module>
    gui.msgbox(START_MSG)
TypeError: msgbox() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)

Lacking to add the user to “samba” (sudo adduser me sambashare), i comment the exact parameter because maybe is a good idea to request the root password via “gksu” tool to do it for the user

net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permiso denegado
You do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/smb-usershare", line 580, in <module>
    gui.msgbox(START_MSG)
TypeError: msgbox() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)

When trying to share folders in the file-manager, it doesn’t allow you to share it as read-write mode, the permissions are correctly set to the folder to be writable by anyone

If we are already connected to internet is useless to scan about networks, disable the scan until we are disconnected (the non-stop scanning thing makes that some wireless drivers blocks and a reboot is required to recover the connection)

Before to run the mount function, check if gparted/fdisk/cfdisk/* is running in order to avoid problems

3g-dialer does not ask for user and password. Also, apn is ignored too. The apn of Ancel Uruguay in the template is wrong (it is wrong in other distros of Linux too), must be “adslmovil” not “gprs”. So, the dialer does not connect to the Internet with 3g modems. Tested witha a Huawei e226.

When the printer is plugged, run the printer applet and when is unplugged, remove it

No funciona la conexión punto a punto
Thank you

Looks like when the partition label has a space, blocks e17