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  • Category Live Mode
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  • Reported Version 1.x Gem+ (beta's)
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Attached to Project: Elive
Opened by DutchDK - 2009-07-01
Last edited by thanatermesis - 2010-03-02

FS#414 - Acer Aspire One A110 - System shuts down after 1 minute

After bypassing  bug 413  (http://bugs.elivecd.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=413&project=2&order=dateopened&sort=desc) and booting without an SD card present, keymap selection and resolution selection can take place.
After X starts up, and the Enlightment desktop displays, the system will shut down after about 30 seconds to 1 minute, whether one uses the system or not.

I think it might be related to the loading of both acer-wmi and MadWifi, since they are known not to play nice together. Other distros such as ubuntu blacklist acer-wmi for the Acer Aspire One models. Using geubuntu (a E17 based ubuntu distro) no such shutdown happens.

Further debugging is not possible, since any logfiles are gone when the system shuts down.

Closed by  thanatermesis
02.03.2010 03:54
Reason for closing:  Vanished Reporter
Admin

Of course this is not related with the battery mode, right ?

Admin

try to add the boot parameter in the boot options acer-wmi.blacklist=yes to see if blacklisting this module from the boot it will work

Running on battery or on electricity, it still shuts down. I can boot with “quiet” removed, and video the bootup, and subsequent shutdown, then post the video for you to see. As I said in the bugreport, logs are gone, since it shuts down.

BTW, I see that you removed #415 from the task list - it was not a duplicate of the other grub menu list error. Did you fix the no sensors boot option ?

Adding “acer-wmi.blacklist=yes” to the boot options don’t do didly squat. Booting with “quiet” removed and “acer-wmi.blacklist=yes” added to the boot options shows as the first line in the boot log output : “acer-wmi.blacklist=yes is not a recognised option - ignoring” and acer-wmi gets loaded 17 seconds into the boot as per normal. And the system shuts down as reported above.

I think its time to remove the “Acer Aspire One: Perfectly supported, also with a special tool to disable the fan when not needed (very noisy in the bed)” statement from the release statement of 1.9.31.. Or change it to “Acer Aspire One A110L not supported”.

Still present in 1.9.32 - System shuts down after 30 - 60 seconds after desktop appears.

Admin

I can’t remove the statement but i can made it working, that’s the idea after all :), btw the statement was pointed by using a different model. Also, it is more a bug than other thing.

I have tell you to try this option of boot just to be sure that it will fix the problem before to blacklist really it for Elive, anyways, let blacklist it then and we see if works on the next ISO :)

  • Do you know if this problem is only for your model of aspire-one ?
  • Can you found something similar at your model on the lshal result ? (for detect the model and then blacklist it), should be on the first(s) section
  • Also, show me the result of: lshal | grep system.hardware.product
  • I suppose that with a recent kernel it should work without problems (without need to blacklist), do you know from which version of the kernel it works ? (unfortunately it is planned to update the kernel for the stable release but not for right now (other tasks has priority))

Problem exist for all Acer Aspire One A series (A110 and A150 - the 8.9" screen Acer Aspire One models)

Check the lshal data for an Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) or Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) installation. These works.

Not possible to get a lshal output on elive, since the shutdown happens both when booting to the Enlightment desktop, as well as when booting to a non-graphical root tty.

Since Elive is using an ancient kernel, I guess you need to update or provide as a boot option a newer kernel, to see if that will fix the boolean value of your "Acer Aspire One: Perfectly supported" statement. It works with 2.6.28 as used in Jaunty Jackalope, 2.6.27 used in Intrepid Ibex, 2.6.30 as used in Karmic Koala, and ofcourse 2.6.23 as used in the factory supplied Linpus Lite.
It works also with OpenGEU, another Enlightment based distro, and finally it works fine with a Jaunty installation, where Enlightment has been added from the E17 Ubuntu repositories.

So the problem is DEFINTELY something Elive specific, whether it is the kernel compile options you are using, or something Elive specific added to the bootup procedure.

Problem still present in 1.9.33

Admin

Do not do again a BIG paste like this here, use the pastebin websites instead

Elive includes acerfand

We should wait for the next kernel update in Elive then

You asked for the information, and did not ask for it to be pasted externally. If you do not want the information, then don''t ask for it. Simple as that.

You might be including acerfand but as stated, the userspace script, can create raceconditions between userspace and kernelland. That is the reason for the acerhdf kernel module. It is available for current kernels now from the piee.net site, and will probably be included´in the 2.6.31 kernel. If you think the userspace acerfand script is better than the acerhdf kernel module, you are either knowing something that the kernelmaintainers don't know, or flaunting an incessant level of ignorance.

Personally I'm giving up on Elive, and going with OpenGEU, since it works OOTB. I hope you find someone else with Aspire One A110 and A150 models to help you in changing the boolean value of the "Acer Aspire One: Perfectly supported" from zero to one.

Even though it is true what J.D says (that the Acer Aspire One is in NO WAY, and I repeat, NO WAY perfectly supported), I have as of Elive version 1.9.37 not expirienced the problem he descibes in the report (I do have toher problems though, as seen in my last bug-report).

Admin

is possible that his model not works good with the actual kernel on elive, unfortunately it is not possible to update the kernel on elive for now (thanks to ATI privative drivers), but it is available a nice 2.6.30 version on the repositories if anybody want to use it

Admin

bug still exists with a recent version of elive ?

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